Roger Lord of Lancaster de Montgomery

Male 1054 -


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  • Name Roger Lord of Lancaster de Montgomery 
    Born 1054  LaMarche, Pays Charitois, Nievre, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Person ID I64894  Little Chute Genealogy
    Last Modified 22 Aug 2007 

    Father Roger Earl De Montgomery,   b. 1005, Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 27 Jul 1094, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 89 years) 
    Mother Mabel Talvas,   b. 1022, Alencon, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 02 Dec 1079, Bures Castle, Troarn, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 57 years) 
    Family ID F23463  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Ademonde De La Haute,   b. 1066 
    Children 
     1. Ameria de Montgomery,   b. cir 1080
     2. Avice De Lancaster,   b. 1095, Nottinghamshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1149  (Age 54 years)
    Last Modified 21 Jul 2022 
    Family ID F24864  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • He was the fourth son of Roger of Montgomery, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury and Mabel of Bellme, and came by the appelation "the Poitevin" due to his marriage to an heiress from Poitou. Sometime before the 1086 Domesday survey he acquired, probably through the influence of his father, a great lordship in England, with lands in Lancashire (which however had not yet been established as a county), Essex, Suffolk, Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire, Lincolnshire and Hampshire. The principal part of the Lordship was in was then called inter Mersam et Ripam, that is, "between the Mersey and the Ribble", and is now part of Lancashire. Also before 1086 he married Almodis, daughter of count Aldebert II of La Marche in Poitou, and sister and presumptive heiress of the childless and unmarried count Boso III. At some point after the Domesday survey he acquired a large part of what is now Lancashire north of the Ribble, as well as the great honour of Eye centered in Suffolk. In the following years he was heavily involved in the affairs of his elder brothers, probably participating in their Rebellion of 1088 against William Rufus, and more certainly a part of Robert's private wars with the latter's Norman neighbors. Around 1091 Roger's brother-in-law Boso died, but Roger was apparently preoccupied with Norman and English affairs, and his wife's uncle Odo became count of La Marche. Roger's father died in 1094, leaving his estates to Roger's elder brothers. Roger now had to pick his own course in the complicated politics of late 11th century England and France. His first big choice came later in 1094, during the conflicts between William Rufus and Robert Curthose. Rufus had been generous to Roger and was his overlord in England, while Roger's elder brother Robert was loyal to Curthose. Rufus sent Roger to hold the castle at Argentan in Normandy, but Roger quickly and without a fight surrendered it to Philip I of France, who was an ally of Curthose. Naturally he lost Rufus' trust and had little influence on the remaining four years of the reign. Roger, along with his brothers, was a supporter of Curthose in his conflicts with Henry I of England during the early years of Henry's reign. After their failed rebellion of 1102, they lost their English holdings and were exiled. Roger then went to his wife's holdings in Poitou. Almodis' uncle Odo was ousted as count of La Marche in 1104, and subsequently the sons of Roger and Almodis are styled as count. Roger himself appears not have had much influence in affairs there, and in 1109 he was permitted to return to England (Robert Curthose having in the interim been defeated and imprisoned), where he stayed for a while but did not recover his earlier holdings. He was the fourth son of Roger of Montgomery, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury and Mabel of Bellme, and came by the appelation "the Poitevin" due to his marriage to an heiress from Poitou. Sometime before the 1086 Domesday survey he acquired, probably through the influence of his father, a great lordship in England, with lands in Lancashire (which however had not yet been established as a county), Essex, Suffolk, Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire, Lincolnshire and Hampshire. The principal part of the Lordship was in was then called inter Mersam et Ripam, that is, "between the Mersey and the Ribble", and is now part of Lancashire. Also before 1086 he married Almodis, daughter of count Aldebert II of La Marche in Poitou, and sister and presumptive heiress of the childless and unmarried count Boso III. At some point after the Domesday survey he acquired a large part of what is now Lancashire north of the Ribble, as well as the great honour of Eye centered in Suffolk. In the following years he was heavily involved in the affairs of his elder brothers, probably participating in their Rebellion of 1088 against William Rufus, and more certainly a part of Robert's private wars with the latter's Norman neighbors. Around 1091 Roger's brother-in-law Boso died, but Roger was apparently preoccupied with Norman and English affairs, and his wife's uncle Odo became count of La Marche. Roger's father died in 1094, leaving his estates to Roger's elder brothers. Roger now had to pick his own course in the complicated politics of late 11th century England and France. His first big choice came later in 1094, during the conflicts between William Rufus and Robert Curthose. Rufus had been generous to Roger and was his overlord in England, while Roger's elder brother Robert was loyal to Curthose. Rufus sent Roger to hold the castle at Argentan in Normandy, but Roger quickly and without a fight surrendered it to Philip I of France, who was an ally of Curthose. Naturally he lost Rufus' trust and had little influence on the remaining four years of the reign. Roger, along with his brothers, was a supporter of Curthose in his conflicts with Henry I of England during the early years of Henry's reign. After their failed rebellion of 1102, they lost their English holdings and were exiled. Roger then went to his wife's holdings in Poitou. Almodis' uncle Odo was ousted as count of La Marche in 1104, and subsequently the sons of Roger and Almodis are styled as count. Roger himself appears not have had much influence in affairs there, and in 1109 he was permitted to return to England (Robert Curthose having in the interim been defeated and imprisoned), where he stayed for a while but did not recover his earlier holdings.